Justice for the 10 MONTH old baby.. NOT so wordless Wednesday..

Posted: February 7, 2012 in Abuse, Am I wrong, Angry, Child Abuse, Headlines
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Bombay high court reduces punishment for a  man who sodomised a 10 month old girl because the man lost control over himself because he was living away from his family.

“Trial judge was aware of the fact that the appellant (Harijan) was married and (had) two children and his family was staying in Uttar Pradesh… No doubt, this by itself may not be a reason for lenient sentence. However, had it been considered in the proper perspective, the learned trial court probably would have imposed lesser sentence than 10 years,” Justice M L Tahaliyani wrote in his judgment recently.  

IHM Has blogged about it  and Shilpa Sharma too

PT has created an online signature campaign to protest against the reduced sentence of Ramkishan Harijan who sodomised a ten months old baby girl.  His sentence was reduced by Bombay High Court because his lawyer argued that the rapist was poor,  a father of two, living alone, away from his native place and therefore probably he lost control over himself.

If you think this rapist doesn’t deserve a reduced sentence, please do sign this petition – to sign click here.

In the petition a lot of questions have been asked But apart from all those question I have to add one of my own which I don’t see anyone asking .. THIS LAWYER how can he argue, He knows what has happened .. I can understand the data protection and all that CRAP and PALLAVA over lawyer-client Confidentiality etc etc. But still If I am not wrong as the news says the LAWYER ARGUED with the court..  My questions are

1. Does this lawyer not have babies in his house

2. Does this lawyer not have Females in his house

3. Is he so blind to make money that he doesn’t give two hoots about who or what he is representing

Is this not the norm we as human beings follow ignoring the reality.

This sick individual who had LOST CONTROL was a neighbour, he actually took the baby from the house to a deserted place where he committed the crime. What sort of world are we living in where we can’t even trust our neighbours.

I would like the contact details of that lawyer too who helped this person, The lawyer indeed is a genius .. Maybe he can help get the INNOCENT PEOPLE some sentences since he is clever enough getting the Culprit off the hook.

How the hell does he sleep at night.. outrageous… Along with this petition there should be one more that should call upon people to boycott such lawyers who will do anything for lure of money. Is this the justice he vowed to uphold…

Doing this to a small baby who could not protect herself.. This guy should be hanged The only reducing of sentence that I think would be valid is that  instead of the electric chair it should be via hanging

WELL done to the lawyer Kudos to him..

So much also to the judges who are supposedly very learned and know the law.. did they not feel or SEE what had happened , what are they trying to show the world that it is ok to Rape a 10-MONTH-old, spend some time in jail, Come out and do it all over again.

The defense lawyer wanted the court to be lenient on the man because he was away from his family and “simply lost control”. If you do not agree with this, please sign this petition.

What is family is it only wife and kids or does it involve others too like parents and siblings .. BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN LIVING AWAY FROM FAMILY FOR more than a DECADE now .. SO

Does that mean that tomorrow I can go and kill someone or do something else very nasty because I LOST CONTROL, we human beings have all lost control sometime in our life are we all entitled to do something this heinous, going by the LAWYERS argument and THE COURTS acceptance of the same IT is a valid reason.

I said KILL because in my eyes killing is a lesser evil then RAPING A 10-MONTH-old kid who did not even understand what was going on with her, who could not even protect herself. Does anyone think like me or am i the only idiot thinking this way.

I have been doing rounds of the court for some personal matter , EUREKA maybe I should LOSE CONTROL and hopefully then the situation will get resolved .. PATHETIC.

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Comments
  1. Kavita says:

    Law, justice and morality – 3 totally different things i think… sighhh

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  2. heerman says:

    I had already made a comment n signed at required place…
    This guy whosoever he was should be given severe punishment and not jus ten yrs improisonment he is a beast … should not be left open..what he did with this baby should not be overlooked ,,, Ashamed with the verdict,,seems like morons ruling the nation ..
    Actually there should be jus ..”hanged till death” for any rape cases if found guilty!

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  3. I know a lawyer has to defend his client to the best of his ability because that is his job. But I’m shocked too that he even took the case.

    This guy didn’t lose control and I don’t think it’s the first time he did it. People who abuse children are mentally disturbed and sick in the head. A man who is horny will not abuse a child especially not rape a baby. He will go find himself a woman.

    The guy needs help and this post is making my skin crawl.

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    • Bikram says:

      Yes defend a client for sure its his job… but as you say shocked at him taking the case and then coming out with such ludicrous arguments .. that the rapist was alone and lost control..

      I am sure he will od it again moreover what good is 10 years in jail while the baby will have to live all her life with this ..

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  4. That makes us think about how careful we should be with neighbors / relatives, etc and how we cannot trust our little kids to them. Pathetic.

    Destination Infinity

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  5. zephyr says:

    It is indeed a pathetic state where we are losing faith of over institutions we have been proud of. Lawyers have been getting the guilty off the hook for ages because they argue well and present their cases well. Here though, it is a poor man he is defending, which means that the issue is not money. What other diabolical reason then? That thought is scarier. We don’t have any right to be happy to be Indians, regardless of whether she is shining or ‘developing’.

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    • Bikram says:

      Yes Mam. Exactly my thought that this was not about money and still , trying to figure out what reason ..

      Yeah you are so right we dont have the right .. and shining – developing is only for a the few not everyone ..

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  6. blommer22 says:

    Human these days become so inhuman..sad, so sad.

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  7. Lost Control…Whose life is easy these days? Almost everyone stays away from family and anyone has one or other problem. So, we all should turn criminals and we will be forgiven as WE LOST CONTROL.
    This is not acceptable at all. I’m signing the petition. I feel pity for the defense and judge. I think their souls are raped…

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    • Bikram says:

      YEah it is true, I live in a foreign country tooo .. .. NO you chose the wrong word.. the court said its ok to do it so how can it be criminal … 🙂

      I have a case going on over our tenant in india maybe i shud lose control and get it vacated .. what say

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  8. Phatichar says:

    I agree with you Bikram. He deserves the worst..no wait – anything worse than the worst? Then he deserves that. >:/

    Unimaginably disgusting.

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    • Bikram says:

      Thank you so much.. I second that too now something worse then worst ..
      But i guess and doubt if it will happne he will be free in a year i think as he has alreayd done 6 years …

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  9. R-A-J says:

    Bikram, I understand your concern and anger.

    A friend of mine was incriminated in a false case some time back and his experience was really sad. He was shattered by the state of law in India cos in his opinion, here only money runs.

    Try interacting with a lawyer – you’ll totally renew your outlook towards morality, fairness and justice.

    Sad state of affairs we have…. wish something could be done.

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    • Bikram says:

      I have been in a similar situation and that too when i am sitting here 4000 miles away in uk, they put a case that I was in india CAN you beleive the patheticness.. and I was summoned by a indian court .. THIS is how the police and judiciary works, i doubt if anyone knows what is going on their. did the police or who so ever did the investigation , the defense councel did he not think I am in UK …

      I am glad you said that you understand the anger , I was thinking maybe iits only me … it is a sad situation.

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  10. renu says:

    very sad state of afffairts, and the height of perversity..cant imagin that type of person even..

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  11. Doesn’t all this make “loosing control and committing the crime” to be an OK thing? I think its a ridiculous argument and the judges who accepted are fools of the first grade

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  12. Padmaja says:

    As you rightly ended, it is Pathetic.. I would say even the lawyer who defended such a crime is as bad an animal as the culprit himself.. it is a shame.

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  13. Dew says:

    Well..i my verdict is he should be hanged to death. He is insane. If he is left…many more lives are under threat.

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    • Bikram says:

      yeah that is right , but what about the Lawyer who supported him .. and ARGUED in his favour .. and offcourse the honourable Judge … are they fir to be doing there jobs

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  14. Sakshi says:

    Alright Bikram,
    Here is the deal with lawyers- Just like, any one else who does their job, we too have to do our JOBS. WE ALSO BLOODY HELL HAVE FAMILIES TO FEED. AND WE DO HAVE A MORAL CONSCIENCE.

    I have written this is bold because, I think that you have gotten the perspective all wrong. I am going to read the judgment, and then comment on it.
    As far as the question of the role of a lawyer is concerned I will give you a full fledged answer on my Blog page!

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    • Bikram says:

      Right so its ok for me to take a bribe and let some criminal go away knowing very well that they are going to comming the crime again.. Well I got a family to feed tooo so I guess it should be ok for me too.

      Families to feed yeah but how good is this knowing you jsut saved a criminal who will probably go and do it again…

      I have not taken it wrong at all, In my eyes he should not have taken the case simple .. Knowing very well that he is saving a criminal.. when there are Genuine people out there wanting law to be on their side and yet money makes it work the other way round ..

      Looking forward to your article , cause I dont see any reason why the lawyer should be doing this and then the judge allowing it .. It is MORALLY WRONG.

      I guess you are a lawyer 🙂 hence supporting him.

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    • Bikram says:

      also the person he has defended is not rich he is just a labourer , so i think the lawyer probably did not earn anything that would have Fed his family as you put it .. so the question is only on the morality and the conscience ..

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  15. Ashwathy says:

    I already signed my petition. Made me sick to see the court actually agreed to this pathetic twisted third-rate reasoning 😡

    I can’t even begin to imagine that the lawyer’s thought process must be like. How on earth can he want to defend a guy like that?! 😯

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    • Bikram says:

      Yeah indeed my thoughts were that , a crime is done against a 10 month baby , who cant defend herself , the court gives the man 8 -10 years Which again to me is very low as this man has raped a soul and he will be free again while the baby has to bear this all her life … its like a life imprisonment for her.. so why should the man get only 8-10..

      and now our dear learned lawyer gets it lower .. by a silly argument .. even if the media has or the petitioner has got it all wrong , YET morally its not right ..

      I am glad there are still some people who think like me and I dont feel like a Idiot …

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  16. Swati says:

    Lost control to a 10 months old..how can somone even think that argument..this is just so sick..asving in ashamed of living in such an insensitive world ..both these men shd be hanged to death.

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  17. b k chowla says:

    Lawyers justify their action as being part of their profession.
    Not that I agree with them,but that is the reality

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    • Bikram says:

      Profession is right Sir, but then their is something called MORALITY .. and they are supposed to uphold law too.. if he was doing it for profession or for money then are the judges stupid to accept the argument they should have gone against it …

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  18. bhargavi says:

    Gosh! My blood boils when i read about such things.. Such rapists must be given capital punishment.Shame on the lawyer and the judge. What kind of human beings are these people? Lawyers are people first and professionals next..So no amount of justification that they are just doing their jobs is valid, according to me. I am sure the judge wouldn’t have reduced the sentence if the child had been his own.. Signing the petition right away !

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    • Bikram says:

      and if the baby was of the lawyer he would not have given this argument or even taken the case .. but then in todays world the lure of money is a lot they just might have … thank you for signing the petition ..

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  19. Bhagyashree says:

    Disgusting, really

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  20. R's Mom says:

    I signed the petition the other day after reading on IHM’s blog…while I can totally understand a lawyer doing his ‘duty’ and defending his client, but this is horrible…like you mentioned, how can he even sleep in the night after this 😦 its sad, pathetic and horrible..

    You know after reading about cases like this, you are too scared to trust anyone…its sad because you lose out on geniune neighbours..but you keep mis trusting every body 😦

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    • Bikram says:

      yeah defending a person is fine, but knowing well what he has done that is wrong well morally wrong.

      you are so right we look at others with suspicion.. and sometimes we end up mistrusting genuine people …

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  21. Ria says:

    Its only bcoz of the poor judicial system that we have such cases…I really dont understand how do ppl get away after destroying someone’s life? Why does the law think that these ppl deserve to live!?

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    • Bikram says:

      EXACTLY my thought what makes them so special that they deserve to live .. I am afraid i dont have a reply to that .. Maybe a Good lawyer can reply .

      So if there is any lawyer reading please do reply ?

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  22. Ria says:

    Have signed the petition….hope justice is served!!

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    • Bikram says:

      Thank you Ria, you are a star.

      lets hope justice is served but with lawyers like these i doubt it and lets not forget the JUDGE witting there tooo he is a culprit tooo

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  23. Saritha says:

    I too signed the petition and i really hope that the baby gets justice and that man gets punishment.

    After reading IHM blog the other day i didn’t get sleep.That lawyer is so insensitive,he never thought how much pain the kid might have suffered.If i was given a chance to give punishment,i would leave that man with similar men who abused kids in a island without food and water.They all should die everyday rather dying once by hanging.

    Educating our kids about bad touch and bad people is not enough,personally i don’t leave my kids with anyone,known or unknown (maybe i am over doing it) Its always be safe then sorry.Kids should never to be felt with anyone be he is a known neighbours…

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    • Bikram says:

      I hope so too justice is done.

      That is a good idea let them sodomise each other and die there alone …

      You are doing the right thing, I guess as a parent we have to be very aware , as such this type of crime is done by someone we know most of the times ..

      Safety comes first ALWAYS..

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  24. Sapna says:

    Signed the petition. Someone could think of using this argument for a “10 month old” baby is sick.

    The judge is seriously out of his mind to even allow the this line of argument.

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  25. Novroz says:

    Ow my dear God!!! this is a SCARY news…that man is not to be justified for that reason. If that is the reason, why not raping an older woman? I am not saying that that raping is okay…but at least such defense can be use to that not to raping a baby. He is CLEARLY A SICK MAN!!! no excuse should be given there. ow that poor baby 😦

    we all know that lawyer tends to be evil, only few…very few…are angels. It’s up to the judge to ignore that plea.

    I’ll sign the petition when I turn on my PC

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  26. Sandhya says:

    Who paid the lawyer? Government? He is supposed to be poor.

    If he is hanged, he will be dead and it is over. He should rot in jail.

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  27. i-celebes says:

    We have Justice, since we born..!!!

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  28. i personally detest the idea of lawyers defending a criminal and thats allowed as well. and judges have always given preposterous verdicts, nothing new. signed the petition, this man sud be hanged.

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    • Bikram says:

      I second your thoughts , i think the problem with judges is they dont want to do anything that will be a change , they stick to the same judgements someone else made years ago.. being safe and lawyers keep quoting the age old cases as what shud happen in this new case ..

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  29. Writerzblock says:

    OMG…WTF…..a chill runs down the spine.. disgusting b*****d. He should first be castrated and then hanged to death.

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  30. Dee.. says:

    Justice in India is HOT DISH served after months.. FY law system
    Dee..

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  31. I read Sakshi’s post first. Given the scenario, legal complications, there is only *this* much sometimes that people can do. We all need to be vigilant about our surroundings is all I can say.

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    • Bikram says:

      but this is not right, that is why our nation is like this, because we think this is it. being vigilant is ok but a crime has been done and it should be given a proper punishment otherwise how will the next offender learn..

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  32. This is so disgusting and very hard to believe. In reality, such insane, devilish acts are far to common around the world. Most incidents are never reported due to the ‘family or self-respect’ of either the parents of the family.

    I totally agree with you, how can a lawyer make a conscious decision to represent such an evil person – its beyond my imagination. It’s not as if the lawyer didn’t know that fact is the defendant admitted to it. Such lawyer need to lower they heads in shame, and further more I think such lawyers need a reality check. For them right now, they know how to suck the blood of innocent people, they need to be re-educated on morals and social contribution.

    In relation to this criminal, I think an example needs to be made out of this person. So others like him or with similar intentions know exactly what their punishment is, but most importantly the life of another baby/child can be saved from these evil bastards of the society.

    Right now, from this news, it appears such people have been given a green light to continue to do this evil act. What type of message is being sent to the wider community?

    This is sick and there is no room in our society or any other for such people and their habits – I call for the death penalty ‘immediately’.

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    • Bikram says:

      I totally agree with all you have said and they are my views too. I think harder punishments and LEss delays to carry them out will od the trick for sure ..
      the message is go and do what you want to and get away with it ..

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  33. Punam J R says:

    To hang him would be EASY death.. he should be made to go through pain each day.. until he breathes his last.

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  34. Rachna says:

    It is horrifying. I signed the petition on IHM’s post and even shared the link so that the others can sign it.

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  35. sm says:

    yes this is country where males lose control when see the girls in Jeans or skirt.
    the problem is that punishments do not deter any one but encourage everyone.

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  36. Shobha says:

    Really sad ..such people have no right to live on this earth.

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  37. Comfy says:

    Lost control! What does that even mean? And where are the people who say the girl must have dressed a certain way to have attracted attention? What could a 10 month old have done?

    I am so mad right now!

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    • Bikram says:

      Exactly my thoughts comfy people go mad over silly issues but when a issue that puts the whole society to shame comes up no one says anything , all the so called leaders officials are sitting there watching the drama unfold .. SAD SAD

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  38. Rahul says:

    Justice is blind, deaf and mute and hence this never ending misery!

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  39. Dee says:

    Appalled by this sick excuse to reduce his sentence…have signed the petition…just hope to see justice done

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    • Bikram says:

      Yes it is really sad .. thanks for signing .. lets hope fingers crossed … although I have come to know that the maximum jail sentence is only 10 years for a case of sodomy…

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      • Dee says:

        But Bikram is it not more for thiscase being against a baby?is the law applied case by case?

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        • bikram says:

          No I dont thinj so but I will have to ask someone. That is the problem in this case also the lawyer has used the example of a case a few years ago when the sentence was reduced.

          So it just depends how clever the lawyer is.. Now after this , this case will be used as a example by others to get their ckients sentence reduced.
          Law has to change….and it should be on case by case basis..

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  40. Andy says:

    Hello Bikram.
    I am saddened & sickened by the acts of the rapist & also the judge & lawyer. Basically, everyone is saying it’s ok to rape a 10-month old baby who’s completely defenseless! Death is too quick & easy for men like this…they should live so they can be punished slowly…have their fingernails & toenails cut off one by one, castrate them, then put them on a deserted island with other predators & let them rape each other (sorry…I’m so upset, I feel I have to vent).
    This is where we really have to say man’s justice is really injustice.
    Thanks for sharing this write-up. I appreciate your visits & comments too.

    Thoughts Of Beauty In The Stillness Of Dawn

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  41. We live in the world where we can NEVER TRUST anyone, EVER!! So sick. Isn’t this the same planet where our ancestors lived with, less sickening morale & societal issues?

    It’s unbelievably sickening.

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    • Bikram says:

      Well it is true all this makes us beahave like this and even some genuine neighbours feel the brunt.
      so true the same planet and yet we say we have grown and developed and all that pallava .. have we …

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  42. Aathira says:

    This ‘losing control’ bit was the last straw. He was living away from family it seems. And, worse, he has children.. I shudder to think what this man would do if his wife is not around but his own children are, when he is about to ‘ lose control’.

    Such people should be just put away from society!

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  43. Elegant Chic says:

    This is B.R.U.T.A.L!!!!! 😯

    He should die suffering inch-by-inch, very very slowly! And that lawyer, arghhhhhhhh!!!!!!

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  44. Cynosure says:

    from the past few days I’ve been hearing about this case…but still wondering that where the was the judge’s mind when he gave the decision… :O
    disgusting… 😦

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  45. R. Ramesh says:

    The Law Is An Ass biks…also animals like thse fail to learn…

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  46. this is extremely depressing.
    wish the laws were implemented and wish such ones are punished so that it serves as a deterrent to others
    too sad

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    • Bikram says:

      I know that how it shud be a punishement shud be a detterent to others but in our country it is more of way to say thats it , i can get away with it so lets do the crime

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  47. sunbyanyname says:

    Shameful. Indian society’s scale of morality is really seeing a new low on everyday basis

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  48. sakha says:

    No words to express the sadness I feel. what have our society come to. We cannot even trust neighbors now?

    I agree with you..capital punishment is what he deserve. No excuses must be tolerated for such atrocious crimes.

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  49. Bindu John says:

    Such perverts should be MINCED!
    Lost control! What if his mother/daughter was around when he LOST it?! Even pet animals are not safe with such beasts…

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  50. Puja says:

    What fury! And how natural it comes to us who refuse to justify the act with such lame words.

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  51. suruchi says:

    Such cases leave me with such frustration Biky-disgusting, senseless and sick!
    and they leave me numb-the world and its sick lust for flesh doesn’t even leave helpless children…I feel such outrage that were it in my hands, I would rather shoot the guy than wait for so-called “justice”

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    • Bikram says:

      i know but then such is the law of our country which is so very disheartening .. I second your thought maybe this is what we are heading to because justice we dont get so people will start to do it themselves ..

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  52. Meera says:

    Signed the petition. Lynching, stoning, death by Chinese torture, or waterboarding, any of those options should be fine with me or put him in prison until death so he can be raped by his fellow inmates every night. Even the latter would not be ample punishment.

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  53. […] Justice for the 10 MONTH old baby.. NOT so wordless Wednesday.. […]

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  54. abichica says:

    OMG!! It disgust me to read about this.. My go, what is going on in our world.. it infuriates me, if i was the law and that man did what he did, i would cut his genitals off just so that he will never get to do this to any other toddler, and so that he will feel emasculated for the heinous crime that he has done!!

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  55. […] of LIFE TERM to these kidnappers .. THIS I want to challenge because if you remember my post on justice for a 10 month old, the judge was reducing the sentence , from 10 to 7 or something like that […]

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