London Dreams….

Posted: January 31, 2011 in Cities, Cousins, Decison, Headlines, London Dreams, Problems
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I have been living in the UK for quite a few years now, over the years I have seen a lot of changes take place both with the attitude of the people living here and those who want to come abroad. I am sure a few of you reading will disagree with me over the issue that loads of people are doing their utmost legal, illegal or whatever means to get out of India, be it educated , uneducated or whosoever. You find all sorts of people spending all their life savings to get out of the country. I am not going to argue or start writing here about the reasons why they are doing so, cause there are umpteen reasons and NO these people are not traitors or otherwise that they are leaving the country.

 Anyway the reason for this note is the terrible conditions of our people out here , I did write a note earlier too the living conditions and work conditions being faced by majority of the people coming, I had told the story of my cousins who have come over, well let’s say it does not look very good for them. One of my cousins did get a job as FARM HELP, now then I have to have a little laugh here, the reason why he came to this country was to get away from working on the farm back home, they have land and all but NA can’t do that, perfectly happy to work in a farm as a HELP here cause he gets about 4 -5 pounds.. How sad is that…

 But then none of the people back home want to listen to this, I go to the gurudwara sahib here and see all these young people coming in for food , god knows how they are managing the roof on their head, the situation of girls is really pathetic won’t go into details on that ..

Anyone who wants to get some work done at home can go and ask these people to work for them for anything between 10-20 pounds A DAY. Yes people you heard it right, A DAY and they will come and do anything for the day from gardening to cleaning to ironing… The reason I am saying is because I got asked by a lovely girl and a guy if I had work at home that they could do, I said no since I am rarely at home with my job and extra work, they started to plead explaining how good they are and how trustworthy they are .. I felt quiet bad but there is nothing that I could do for them other then politely refuse, but this is happening.

I was reading some news about the pathetic situation of people in London especially Southall, where a vast majority of population is Asian, no wonder it’s called Little India, It the same story as when India was known to be the GOLDEN BIRD, how every other nation came to plunder it of its prosperity, in the new era England was supposed to have  ‘streets paved with gold’ , but not anymore … one needs to see the ques in front of local gurudwaras to see the situation, one good thing though everyone is friendly no talk of being a hindu-muslim or sikh .. All are equal standing in the queue for the free langar.

People are sleeping in BINS, or even phone booths Yet the mass influx or the want to come to LONDON one of the richest cities in the world is increasing day by day, I also remember telling one of the friends in India about the situation, there reply was “I am jealous, I don’t want them to do good as I did”.. 

A few months back there was some sort of pity or what you call sympathy for these people who had come to pastures green, but over time I have seen this sympathy going down… as a few localites here feel that they dont have any compassion for these people as this is SELF-INFLICTED,

1. Why is there such an urge to come here…?

2. Why can’t people work as hard as they work here back home

3. Why can’t they work with same respect?

4. Why can’t you work in your OWN FIELD?

With the opening of borders for Euro union it has become very hard for outsiders to get a job, as the job has to be advertised to Europeans and then to others, with current economic scenarios, lots of jobs have been lost, thousands have been made redundant.

Please please All who read this, Please make sure before you or anyone you know who are contemplating to come abroad, you have the facts right, Do your spade work, find out if it is really any worthwhile coming all this way, Wasting the hard earned money of your parents or even putting them under Debt.

Everybody hopes to live in a better environment socially and economically. But it’s not possible for people to get that without struggle. It is the responsibility of the person to determine how much struggle is justified for the cause. The cause can’t be worth it, if the existence occurs merely from hand to mouth.

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  1. Saritha says:

    First 😀 😀

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  2. I am sad to know about the shattered London Dreams…..still there are many many people around here in India who are dying to come abroad !

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    • Bikram says:

      Yeah more and more people have this want of coming abroad, Queues of people in front of the embassies in india, the ways people have found to come here under trucks risking there life …

      not jsut dying but a few have DIED.. coming to foregin shores ..

      Welcome to this blog thank you so much.. please do keep visiting

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  3. Saritha says:

    Superby post bikram and completely agree to what u have written.

    I lived in gulf for 8 years and i have seen how asians live in a pathetic conditions.First they are cheated by the middle man to whom they pay 1-2 lacs rupees (taking loans).When they land in uae they come to know that their visa is just for 3 months ie visit visa and after that they have to exist the country.But without earing how can they exist the country.They end up working as maids and construction worker.

    I met one lady who is working in dubai for the last 7 years and not even once she visited the country.She says initially i used to thinking of going now i am used to live like this,i will work till i am thrown out of the country.

    That country is built by the immigrants and now that country doesn’t need the people who helped them.

    10 people are cramped in a small room without an a/c in summer when the temp is +50

    “I am jealous, I don’t want them to do good as I did”..—–this is exactly what i heard few years back…..

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    • Bikram says:

      It is true we built the country and now they dont need us its true , cause the menial jobs indians did when they initially came here to uk in 1960’s .. the same jobs are being taken over by the european people cause its too much fo a shame for indians to do it now .. and because of the that all the jobs that we got earlier are no more there cause there are people always ready to work at a lower rate..

      and it has made the lifes of indians very veyr bad…

      and as you say people have taken debts to come here and now they dont have a way to pay off the debt .. they are worst off coming here …

      some of the stories of girls i have heard I cant put on the blog 😦 it really is very pathetic

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  4. Great post. 🙂 I agree with u on this. 🙂

    Point 2 is too good.

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    • Bikram says:

      Hey thanks for liking this post .. I am glad you liked it Yeah we dont wnatot work hard do we .. its like in london there is a tree which has mony as leaves and we only got to get there and start to earn 🙂

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  5. Ananya says:

    Couldn’t agree more.

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  6. bloggergirl12 says:

    You’d be surprised what people are going through to get out of their home country. and if you try to warn them that it’s not as easy breazy here as they think it is you only get one answer “aap chale gaye hun horan nu jaan nahi dende” (you yourself have gone and now you don’t want anyone else to come there)… they won’t stay in the country for obvious reasons and I don’t deny that… corruption… social reasons… unemployment… insecurity of raising a family there… no law whatsoever.. the list is endless…. these don’t make the life there perfect for all of us… but they get on the plane thinking that they will land with a perfect job where they don’t need to work at all and will be able to earn a lot of money!! – this is wrong…

    I know it is very heart breaking to see these young enthusiastic people working sad pathetic jobs to just earn a meal!!! and these are educated people… people with hopes and degrees… but economy hasn’t been very good lately… and then there is always a question of jobs going to immigrants versus the citizens…

    Everyone struggles in the beginning not everyone gets their dream job in a fraction of a second but at least there is always a hope for getting a decent earning by the end of the day… and if you are honest, trustworthy, and hardworking – I can personally guarantee the person lands an amazing job… and can afford a good lifestyle… a secured environment to raise a family… provide a decent upbringing for his/her children…

    Hardwork always pays…. always… no matter what circumstances… other than INDIA… sorry to say that but it doesn’t!! You say why your cousin isn’t working in their own farm… have you seen the condition of today’s farmer?? what do they get?? nothing!! Yes, a lot forces these individuals to come abroad and leave their parents, family, life, everything… but they come here for a healthy living!! and they should be prepared for hardships… if they stick it out for a while… they will MAKE IT!!

    Mannat!!

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    • Bikram says:

      Oh yes Mannat I know that feeling and totally agree with what you have mentioned about what we got to hear when we tell about the conditions , I kept telling my cousin to NOT COME in WINTERS he will waste 4 -5 months of his VISA as work does seem to come down even in farms but who cares and when he got a year and half visa and had to sit without work all through winters , he was moaning , I TOLD HIM SO.. had he come in spring he would have had a good run and easier to find a job and may have kept it during this winter ..

      I know what you say but then tell that to people out there and talk about how people are wanting to come aborad they say NO, no one wants to leave india things have changed, I have evne been called a traitor and what not saying the next generation doesnot want to come aborad they r happy in india WISH IF IT WAS TRUE, the stories on the roads in SOUTHHALL tell a different story..

      Yes i do say why he did not work in his farm and working here the QUESTION was more to do with the IDEA to WORK not about money or conditions, HE would not go to his farm WHY whats the harm in working hard, forget about the returns it will only come if you work he NEVER WORKED is my question, if you are ready to sweep the floors at heathrow , clean the toilets surly its better to work in ur OWN FIELD or Why then wont they clean the TOILETS in there OWN HOUSE .. thats what I meant…

      I know the condition of TOdays FARMER heck I am from that family who wud know better then me , BUT I WORKED HARD , TILELD THE LAND I did not give up wrking cause iw anted to come to england, i was working , had a job and yes DID THE FARM WORK TOOO in the months of June july yepp …

      Stick it out its been more then a year now , things are different in UK as i said because of EUROPEAN UNION things are NOT GOING TO CHANGE FOR foreigners cause jobs are to be advertised for Europeans and then if not filled go to foreginers .. I am not talking of US or CANADA .. this is UK

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  7. Phoenixritu says:

    Thought provoking blog post, Bikky

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    • Bikram says:

      Thank you so much. Well the conditions are so bad for these people that they do need to think. Imagine sleping in a bin cant go back as probably taken loan to come here bad bad situaton

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  8. Shilpa Garg says:

    Hope the ones who wanna take the flight out of India for ‘greener pastures’ take informed decisions! Thought provoking post!

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    • Bikram says:

      Yes true I do wish they get information its not good here anymore I have stopped saying anything to relatives let them come and live the dreammmmmm Cause anything I say wont matter

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  9. Sakshi says:

    Hi Bikram!
    You know, you have actually raised a very valid point here, that with the economic scenario changing, it has become extremely difficult for one to find a job… even in the developed nations. But you see, grass is always greener on the other side!

    One major reason that I feel, why people, talented eager to work people like to go and work in the western societies is- because in the western society, you don’t have to be a politician’s relative to do something big, you just have to work hard.

    But here in India, you need to have connections in order to go ahead in your career!

    It is like a double edged sword, but things would change, if only the genuine hardwork of the person is appreciated here instead of the family roots!

    Great post!

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    • Bikram says:

      Thanks a Lot Sakshi, Yeah grass is always greener. .what makes me mad is they are willing to do menial jobs here but not back home, back home roads are dirty , unhygenic but here they can come and clean everything …

      I agree with you on the Talented and the ones who get a job or can get or are educated enough to make it here , I was talking more about the Wannabe’s , the people who have come in illegally or without proper education ..

      I totally agree with you on connection, I blame my granddad why he had to retire if only he was in job till i passed my college i would not need to come abroad would have a posh job .. and also why could my dad not be a General or something in army … I passed every written exam and yet the one who got selected was son of a navy officer weird …

      and Here i am in UK working for the forces I am good enough for a foreign country who are much higher in standarrds etc but not good enough for my own country, makes one think 🙂

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  10. A says:

    It is surprising to be honest. I did not know about it. Are these people illegal without work visa or do they have legitimate visa to work? How about Social security? Are these people entitled for it or not?

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    • Bikram says:

      Hi, a combination of everything , some are illegal some dont have work permits but then the ones who are legally here and have work permits also , are in same problem THERE ARE NO JOBS…

      You are enititled for Social security when u r a citizen or something like that i think, but not if u got jsut a work permit , there are different rules, and as such the GOVT has no money how will they carry on supporting so many mouths , what about the people like me who work hard day in and day out and pay our national insurance by the time we retire we wont have any left.. so you got to think ..

      moreover borders are open and with influx of europeans for the same job you have hundreds ready to work, one gets it what about the rest 99… 🙂 how can they afford rents , money for food which they dont have …

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  11. wildflower says:

    Absolutely true, completely agree with your take on the current situation of immigrants from the indian subcontinent to uk. But it’s not just the older ones who come here with the intention of earning some cash. As a university student, i was shocked to hear and actually come in touch with so many students from india who came to the uk only with the intention of working round the clock to firstly earn back the education loan which financed their trip into uk and then staying on with the hope of earning a decent living. And i don’t even want to get started on the pathetic conditions they are ready to live in. We can’t comment on the reasons why people do what they do but it’s just insane the extent to which people will go to, just so they can leave their home countries.

    This post is definitely an eye opener for all those who think that being paid in pounds (or any other fancy currency) is a piece of cake. Seriously, it’s not!

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    • Bikram says:

      OH YES .. the visa for higher study is jsut a front to make some quick buck, which worked a few years ago but not anymore as there are no jobs, and as i said for one job there are so many people and the person who gives a job can dictate his own terms , Govt has said its approximately 6 pounds to an hour , but u can hire a person for 1 or two pound an hour anywhere .. and not one but as many …

      the worst are the people who have taken admission in fake universities they have paid lakhs which they have taken on laon to pay the fees and all thinking earning in pounds but now thats gone to , so when they do return they still have that loan to pay ….

      IT is INSANE to the extent people go .

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  12. sm says:

    yes i agree with you
    one should get the facts right before moving.

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  13. Yup ! I guess u r so right pal. Last weekend I went to have dinner at an Indian resturant & met a very old busboy.My husband( always curious) asked him if he is new? He said , he is here because both the sons are here ,whatever they had they sold it & now there is nothing left , they are here to help the sons.He works as busboy and the wife as a cook at more than three houses.Believe me i was shell shocked at the irony of fate.

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    • Bikram says:

      Welcome to this blog .. thank you so much for visiting do keep coming 🙂

      irony indeed they worked when they were young to feed there kids and now when they shud be retired and enjoying life they have to come and do the same feed there kids again .. PATHETIC..
      how can those kids let them do it …

      SAD SADDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD whats the use of those SONS.. idiots

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  14. Purbaray says:

    I really liked this post of yours. It burst the bubble for people with foreign dreams. It’s agonizing to see Indians working as janitors at the Heathrow airport or cleaning sewers in KL or doing menial jobs in any other part of the world. And they all look so unhappy!!

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    • Bikram says:

      Yayyyyyyyyy Thank you so much for liking it 🙂

      yeah the bubble burst hope they learn and od something back home to earn a decent living …

      yepp its worse now , if you get a job as janitor EXCELLENT. .cause there are 100 european guys who will take that job at a lower price now…

      imagine the plight of people who dont get jobs and still got to pay for food and roof .. its worse .. I went to see my cousin and there are 12 people living in the 3 bedroom house .. well you can see how bad that can be and especially for the girls … yet back home the parents are thinking otherwise ..

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  15. Abha Midha says:

    The desire for greener pastures abroad go way back to 60s when people went to Us and UK. and fifty years on it is still going strong. But, yes a lot of thought process is required before taking the plunge. a good post 🙂

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    • Bikram says:

      YEah what happeend in 60’s is happeening again.. now its the europeans who are coming in .. and doing what people from india in 60’s did, hence its become more difficult to get labour jobs as someone is willing to do the same job at a lower price ..

      Thanks for liking this post

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  16. IRFANUDDIN says:

    working Abroad is something like status symbol for most of them…… very good post by you sir…. wish people start following the right path after knowing all this !!!

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    • Bikram says:

      Areeeeeeeeeeee whats this sir business … PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

      I dont mind if people come and work hard and earn money nothing against that whatever the reason cause i understand how things are back home but then its bad of people who wont work at all and do nothing.. yet they can come and do menial jobs ..

      and now adays as such jobs are not many .. its for them IF you can manage to do something back home and earn a decent living then why come and face the hardships here thats the point

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      • IRFANUDDIN says:

        this is what actually i meant to say… if one can earn little less here and be with dear ones….. but, yaa some times situations are here such that one has to migrate….. now a days there is too much talk about RADIO COLLAR…. though i dont know the exact reason behind this but feel sorry for them….

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        • Bikram says:

          Oh Ok..

          no idea what radio collar is .. havent heard about it here yet or maybe i am too far behind the current news 🙂
          yeah i understand situations make a person do funny things

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  17. Rachna says:

    You are so right, Bikram. In the mad rush to earn more and to have a lifestyle which they see in the movies, many people are blinded and sometimes conned to run to foreign lands. We can’t blame the local population for not wanting them, and they have to swallow their pride and live miserable lives instead of going back. I would say, unless you are professionally qualified and can live a life of dignity or have someone to support you, don’t go. It is a big jolt to your pride to live like a beggar. Yahan par izzat ki do waqt ki roti toh milegi!

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    • Bikram says:

      No we cant bame the local population, Hell I am worried about my time when i retire , if the govt keeps paying all the people as such there is no money the way economy is going , iwhat will happen when i have to retire there will be no meny for my pension .. I pay my national insurance for myself and family not for someone who wud not work or CAN work to live on DOLE..

      so the local population is very much in there rights to refuse or refuse paying national insurance what will the GOvt do then …

      YEs its a big jolt , I dont think i could do it ..

      What makes me so angry is why do the youth not work so hard back home i know there are problems , money is no good , corruption and all but hey at least you have a house a roof and Food , here you got nothing esepcially in the current economic state …

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  18. Shahid says:

    I know about ppl calling up dad coz they wanted a job in dubai…ppl today are amazed when they see me working here in india…see i might earn a few more bucks there but hey..i love my india

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    • Bikram says:

      This is another thing i cant understand when people say I LOVE INDIA.. r u sure its just this that you are staying in india and happy to work there, What if you had not got a job would you say the same then too.. 🙂

      you are lucky you got a job but there are millions who dont and amongst them hundreds who just dont like the idea of working back home but r ready to work here ..

      The post it for those people who are ready to put life in danger do anything to get here, and Do anything BUT WONT DO ANYTHING BACK HOME… its for those and its worrying when quiet a few are highly educated ..

      You are lucky my friend Goood … wish i was lucky

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  19. scorpria says:

    A profound post!
    A bubble breaker indeed: i hope this post travels far and wide and reaches all ears that it must! 🙂
    Good one, again!

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  20. Shobha says:

    Indeed very sad but true !
    So is the case with people going to Dubai… even educated people end up doing all kinds of menial jobs.

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  21. bhagyareema says:

    Same story here too. In the mad rush to come abroad, nobody tries to find out whether the job being offered is good enough or does it have any prospects. Result-shattered dreams, pathetic life

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  22. UmaS says:

    Very nice thot provoking post, Bikram. Its high time ppl think that living in India is far better than begging for work in outside land.
    Gud u wrote this to warn ppl.

    Its the irony of life – a person not willing to work in his own farm, but says yes to some other farm, just becos its the UK !!! Very sad.

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    • Bikram says:

      THanks UmaS 🙂 yes it is i mean you might not earn so much but hey you have food and roof, and when times change things improve you can always come then, why risk life and taking loans and be in debt NOW when the going is so tough for people who have lived here for years ..

      Do something . get together start some work ANYTHING if you are ready to clean toilets here SURLY you can do much better back home …

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  23. Very profound post Bikram !! You’ve captured the situation of expat Indians very well !!

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  24. There are certain universal principles that people ought to be aware of:

    1. Cost of Living is ALWAYS proportional to the earnings potential.
    2. Once you are accustomed to a particular lifestyle, its really very difficult to go back or get adjusted to what one thinks is a lowly lifestyle.
    3. There are no free meals. Anywhere. People always got to work. And work hard.

    What bothers me more is, the young people are encouraged by parents to go out of the country by any and every means to live happily. Now, I can agree that the young people might be innocent enough to believe that, but why would parents do it unless they are cunning? They have lived long enough to realize the basic values of life, irrespective of the region. But for doing such things, the parents usually get back what they deserve – from their kids. Slightly later.

    A good thought provoking post from you.

    Destination Infinity

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    • Bikram says:

      I totally agree with the points you put.

      Parents forcing the kids to come here I did not know about that, cause mine did not it was my decision.. rather my mum keeps asking for me to come back ..

      Thanks DI 🙂 how is jogging going he he he

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  25. Deeps says:

    It is a pathetic condition indeed.

    Very thought provoking post, Bik. “Everybody hopes to live in a better environment socially and economically. But it’s not possible for people to get that without struggle. It is the responsibility of the person to determine how much struggle is justified for the cause. The cause can’t be worth it, if the existence occurs merely from hand to mouth.” Very well put!

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    • Bikram says:

      Thanks Deeps… I am glad you agree with it … I mean if you can come and do labour here and work so hard why cant you do it back home and maybe you wont get so much money but still you will have a roof and FOOD and you wont have to beg or have free langar in gurudwaras …

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  26. Jyothi says:

    People are trying to get back to India these days! Before, people used to think that when you leave India, money starts growing on trees!

    We should do a complete background check of the place before moving in anywhere. We too came here on a visit visa. Mom liked the place, so she then applied for tc from our schools in Kerala and shifted us here. Dad was fortunately capable of having good accommodations from work. But there are many who weren’t so lucky!

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    • Bikram says:

      I dont know where you got the details people are trying to get back to india, its a wrong statistic, No they are not and majority of those who went back have retunred back..
      Most people who have gone have RETIRED back to india. There is a difference they have retired here and gone to live in india thats not going back..

      and Good luck to those who have gone back, Really good of them .. I too have this dream of going back and hopefully one day make it happen if not then at least when i retire I will go .. but the idea is not that its about the still millions who want to come and who are willing to put there life in danger to get here

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  27. Beg but beg in dollars. As long as people have this mentality and the dollar/euro addiction and rupiya conversion in sight, people won’t mind even begging in phoren land.

    P.s> Looking forward to you in King and Queen Contest. Check out the complete details in Cafe GingerChai.

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    • Bikram says:

      Ha ha ha I like this , the way you put it BEG but BEG in POUND why dollars Pound is RIcher he hehehe 🙂

      and yes my eyes are on that CONTEST and am checking the details LR 🙂 here we gooooooooo

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  28. manchitra says:

    It’s really sad indeed Bikram, the other side is greener for all . They do not think twice before venturing. When I come across people trying for jobs in foreign country I always tell them the hardship over there. But very few listen:(

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    • Bikram says:

      No one listens , thats the problem and relatives blame you for not wanting them to succeed, I have had that a lot now ..

      but now they have found it themselves how hard it is.. hopefully they will tell others to not rush to come here at least wait till the Economy rises up again ..

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  29. Rek says:

    If London was a tree with pounds for leaves…would a section of the British be unemployed or living on government doles….
    Is an ingrained attitude…a guy who won’t pick up his own plate back home will willingly clean dishes in the western world….
    a lot of professional are returning back as life has become uncertain abroad and offers are opening up in India…
    what about those students who go on fraudulent certificates/scams ?
    parents are the main culprits….u reap what you reap…
    but given the high population, unemployment, corruption…its not a river that’s gonna ebb soon…
    besides a graduate janitor in the west is not ridiculed as he/she would be back home….its a mindset that needs to change…

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    • Bikram says:

      Agreed the mindset needs to change , a job is a job TREAT IT AS A JOB simple.. good or bad comes later .. and anything is good these days ..

      I dont know when all say opening have come up in india, I dont get such offers maybe i am no good 😦 sad …

      a lot of professionals are returning home because theyre are NO JOBS here, if they get a job they wont go back.. thats wat i am trying to say there are NO JOBS good ones or the menial ones .. and also with the new law that has come up..
      If for the same job there is a european or lets say a indian the Job will go to the european because of the Euro law..

      Thats the reason professionals are going back NOT because of other reasons the need to come to pastures green is still luring.. not becauseo f the Love for the country if they say that then i am sorry i would call them Hypocrates and I am sure INDIA as a country doesnot want such people.

      Lets hope good sense prevails and hope things improve and everyone gets to live life happily 🙂

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  30. Dido says:

    Thought provoking….very well written ….

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  31. DEVIL'S BLOG says:

    I might agree with you on poverty and miserable condition of people in each country but believe me there are many people who don’t leave their country just because they see something is more prosporus in some other country.

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  32. Nethra says:

    I don’t intend to do any such thing not because I can’t. I just don’t want to. Might be an holiday outside the country is acceptable. 🙂

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    • Bikram says:

      YEah but thats your decision, I am talking of people who have come over here without giving a thought and adhering to what people here have to say to them and tell them how things are …

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  33. Tanishka says:

    I just don’t understand the obsession of Indians with moving abroad… You are the prince/princess in your own land but the minute you cross the borders you are nothinG but an outsider who is looked upon with a frown… Why do someone want all of that???

    Anyways if I come across people who want to run away I never stop them even for a second… If you don’t need India now, India never needed you….

    Sorry if I sounded rude.

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    • Bikram says:

      Nothing about being rude, these are your views ..

      Its not about obsessions always, sometimes its a necessity or things turn out like that, look at me for example i had not idea i would come to UK, i was to gradute, clear the IMA and join the army THATS it .. but it turned out to be different and within 3 months of deciding i was here ..
      and Its not about you are nothing or something, Sorry to say that But I have not felt i am anything here , its the other way round I AM SOMETHING here , My life means something, rich poor whatever IT means something , it has some value..

      and Sometimes its not about your own wishes , you got to think on the bigger picture, its ok to say Oh i love my country i am not leaving , ok Fair enough, But then what do you do , do you survive on ur parents shoulders all the time .. or do something what abotu your next generation do they also go through the same rigmarol as you did … Its not about running away from the country, and beleive me the country does need all the expats for a lot of reasons ..

      Its not always thinking from heart sometimes mind needs to take over too, I did not want to go around grovelling for a job, or spend lakhs to get into a job, and pay for every thing.. I could not do it I would have ended killing someone there so the best option was for me to move out and Now that i am here .. I have some respect …

      and at least my next generation will not have to go through the same problems which i went or my dad went or his dad before him went … 🙂

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  34. Writerzblock says:

    Bikki, this is such a valuable post. I think EVERY Indian who wants to move to UK should first read this. The other day I met a boy in the train (also from Chennai) who almost cried saying he came to study and is unable to cope with expenses. I told him to go back!! Well, what else to do?! Stay here and struggle for the next decade trying to make a living? Or go back home and live comfortably with the support of family!!

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    • Bikram says:

      THanks Pal, I meet such people EVERY NIGHT, my patch where i have to walk is most asian dominated and it has a couple of GUrudwaras so I meet THEM and the moment they see my name MANN and know i am indian the waterworks start and Some who are illegal try to hide there face 🙂

      Yeah Now is not a good time to come here, maybe in a few years time when things start to work up.. not now

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  35. Deepika says:

    Thats sad how ppl are running everywhere else other than homeland to search work. Even when better one is available here. Brain drain is increasing day by day. Sigh.

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    • Bikram says:

      Yeah it is sad, i guess each country has problems india has a bit more thats all, This post is not about that its to jsut let people know THINK before you come , have something in hand AT LEAST BE EDUCATED .. or have some backup plan.. dont just turn up and expect to earn pounds the next day onwards… Thats all .. I have no compalint about brain drain or anything one should go where they are comfortable, and where one is happy .. working abroad or in india has got nothing to do with LOVE or loyalty and all that bollocks that people come out with ..

      One should avail every oppurtunity avaialbe to them .. 🙂

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  36. bedazzled says:

    What an awesome heart-felt post,Bikram!. Hope for a better future motivates people to seek jobs outsite,i think. Grass is always greener on the other side and we Indians are known for “foreign”-fixation. wonder how these people managed the winter if they dont have a roof above their head.. I’ve heard of pathetic living conditions of people in the UAE,but had no clue London had a huge chunk of it too.. Is it a big city thing? I know New York has a lot of homeless people too .. but are they Indians,i have no clue ..

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    • Bikram says:

      Thank you so much.. yeah hope i totally agree with it , and one should as i said in my other reply one should avail all oppurtunities no harm in that, but all i am saying is NOW is not the good time to do that , patience let things come up again and the same oppurtunities will come up again…

      there is a place southhall its called little india as majority is indians or asians .. and i think its to do with the economy crunch plus the european borders are opened when uk joined the EURO UNION.. so they are coming in as indians came in 60’s

      jobs are there its just there are more people for the same job…

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  37. That’s a good insight into the “green grass” on the other side of the fence! The worst part is the denial. I don’t know why people deny the fact that they made a mistake!
    Hope some good sense is drilled into people’s head, especially after the Trivalley drama in US!

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    • Bikram says:

      Yeah the denial they dont want to lsiten and think if i am stopping them its cause i have a hidden agenda or dont want them to earn a decent living 🙂 hope they learn

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  38. asha says:

    An ‘ask of the moment’ post! What with radio tagging, racism and people minting money through job rackets.

    There is an advt from the external affairs ministry in this regard on Doordarshan. It helps people to get their facts right before crossing the shores especially for tertiary workers and students.

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    • Bikram says:

      YEah one should make sure they know how it is before making the decision, when i came i knew i was educated enough that i wud get a job..

      i dont know about radio tagging .. BUt racism well I have not been a victim so far , have had a nice time here .. so i guess i am lucky God has been kind to me ..

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  39. Pepper says:

    Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant post. I whole heartedly agree with every little thing you’ve said and every point you’ve raised. I can’t figure out why people have this desperate urge to move abroad. As for me, I’d move back to India in a heartbeat, if all things fell into place.

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    • Bikram says:

      THanks .. I hope my grammer and my spellings were not that bad HA HA HAAHAAH AH 🙂 sorry sorry he he hehe

      yeah same here if things fell in place me too will move in a heartbeat.. fingers crossed and if God is a bit more happy with me … things might just work out 🙂

      moving abroad i dont have anything agaisnt that, one should and has the right to earn a decent living wherever they deem fit, and make life for themselves and there next generation good too.. but its jsut economy crunch and all this is not the right time to come especially if you are not quaklified and cant compete…

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  40. Sandhya says:

    Truth is always bitter, Bikram! People who are here think that people who are abroad get money from trees. It is not easy to work in an alien environment. Yes, we are familiar with them because of the TV and other media, but they are different and they too feel that we are different. Unless you are well qualified and go there with an assured job, life will be hell.

    A very good post, Bikram. Hope many people, esp. people who are aspiring to go there to earn easy money, read this post.

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    • Bikram says:

      Yes Sandhay di, it is always better… its not easy to work anywhere these days , you got to work hard and very hard…

      yeah i agree unless u r qualified and have a job to go to then its great…

      its no more easy money 😦

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  41. AGK says:

    With this eye opener, you’ve correctly described the status of poor Indians (rather misguided) who are looking West as their saviour but the scenario/situation there is miserable for Indians. Gradually, West is slamming doors for Indians for the reason; they too have younger generation who are looking for good job at their birth-place and how can they allow intruders (Indians or Asians who are comparatively hard-worker than them) to snatch the jobs leaving them jobless ? “APNE-GHAR-MAIN-BHI-HAI-ROTI” thanks for writing wonderful article.

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    • Bikram says:

      but its not the POOR Indians who are rushing here its perfectly fine RICH indians who are doing it .. poor i can understand they want to make a better living but why the rich who alreayd have all the money they need to live happily because DADDY dear has earned enough.. even they are racing towards here …

      the West as u say has its own problems now, UK has opened its borders so it has to abide by EURO rules , jobs go to them first then outsiders as we are now…

      and let me tell you one thing you are wrong to say INDIANS are hard working comparatively NO, they are not .. you got to watch the people from Poland or other stated mind you they are MUCH more hard working … yeppp

      Thanks AGK

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  42. AGK says:

    Since there is limited space for comments, I could not paste further otherwise I have written full page, anyway thanks for comments on my blog STRANGER.

    Best wishes

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  43. Ashwathy says:

    People are willing to double the effort for half the salary, just because they are in a foreign country…. it’s sad really
    Good post, dude!

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  44. drpratibha says:

    i can relate this post with my brother’s feeling who have been living in UK and keep on asking these questions.When he went there he realized importance of home and he will come back home after 2 years as he don’t want to settle there.

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  45. Alka says:

    Grass is greener on the other side, and when you come to the other side you realize it was an astro turf…. People are searching for Utopia. We have our own problems here but how long can u run?
    Your posts r always from the heart.

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  46. Neena says:

    Excellent post Bikram. I’ve been reading a lot about the pathetic conditions of Asian migrants in the UK. I think the urge to greener pasture is especially strong in some communities, as a lot of youngsters in these communities grow up seeing relatives and friends “doing well” abroad. What we need to do is spread more awareness.By teh way, have you watched Bin Tere LAden? It’s a brilliant film depicting the desperation of South Asians to migrate to a foreign country.

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    • Bikram says:

      Thank you.

      yeah especiually in us punjabi’s its like foregin hi jana hai ..

      Yes i saw bin tere laden its hilarious and what all the poor guy has to do to get abroad 🙂

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  48. harman says:

    ..Well I dont agree on certain things!!every person is different and ideologies are not same…to be true to myself and not to impress anyone I like US and quality of life….I am an indian But when I visited india five years back …within two weeks I came to know the worth of place I am living ..I may sound rude…Daughter of an army officer and half of the family serving the country..But I cannot run away from truth..so much trouble moving from one place to another ..in india…lots of traffic…always I was scared of my purse in crowd of theft or burglary…standing in line to get my cash back after shopping and shopkeeper ..ASSHOLE ..is not even looking….getting lewd comments from Bunch of idiots…standing on intersections..VEHLE JANTA…
    My whole family is here…in-laws and my brother…my parents are migrating this year..too..I do miss India certain times…coz of friends and DESI stuff but over all its good here !
    people who want to come here…should be educated…for sure..to have better living and good corporate job…even if its odd job…minimal wage is guaranteed..plus insurance and best health care!compared to India.
    Those who are lazy or want shortcuts in life cannot succeed anywhere in the world!!
    and who says… people are not interested in coming abroad…there is Wait period goin on for Canadian imigration..all my cousins have migrated to Canada…those who are left…are in a hope they will get their turn very soon!!
    Its bS..and ideologies..basically its a mindset..and one can settle only if he or she is ready to prepare themselves for hard work!
    good write up!very provoking!!!!

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    • Bikram says:

      I totall understand what you have said.. Pity people in india see us as running away from problem but they fail to understand that all these so called foreigniers are actually doing much good for india then the people living in there.. look as how much money is sent over but anyway …

      GLad to know your parents are coming too.. thats good news all of you together, thats one thing i miss here being all alone and all..

      Look Harman i know for a fact all these people who say things about people aborad if you give them a visa and a ticket they will come running .. One thing is ripe there they say something, do different .. and all this love and patriotism doesnot show by stayin at place its by doing something ..

      So glad to hear that your family was in army and all Same here, other than my dad everyone was or is in army.. My Chachu is Lt. General now 🙂

      Thanks for the lovely comment 🙂

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  49. Jacqueline says:

    My dear friend, always voicing your opinion.

    Well said…well written. What i liked the most….your gust to post your views.

    There are a lot of people who are experiencing and witnessing these situations but do not have the guts to voice themselves or are just unconcerned.

    There is nothing more to ponder on.

    🙂

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  50. Anu says:

    Mere reflection of my thoughts is what I see in this post!
    But I never knew or haven’t seen someone suffering so much..That’s quite disheartening to know that our fellow brother leaves the pasture and searches for a better pasture in a desert, just for a few extra pounds they get!
    But often they don’t understand that if we stay with family we are always better off, in all means!
    Great thought provoking post Bik!

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    • Bikram says:

      Yes it is a very bad situation here , no jobs, cold..
      the thing is when you tell them they take it otherwise .. I told my cousin to wait for winters to get over and then come that way he will have some more time and can save on the VISA too but who listens and no work now …

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  51. Rakesh says:

    Sabko dusre ki biwi jyada achi lagti hai, nai? 😀 But yes, I know what you’re saying. However, professionally, I’ve found a lot of reverse brain drain happening since the last few years, especially because of the recession all over and the recovery in India.

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  52. Excellent post Bikram …

    I was shocked to see my doc friend living with 6 other ppl in a stinky 3 bedroom apartment in wrexham 3 years ago , after leaving her physio practice in INdia she preffered workiing at macD… and she was trying to tell me she is having fun by wearing shorts and tube tops (in winter ). I first laughed and then scolded her a lot . you cannot live below diginity for jobs you don’t need to do ..If wearing skirts is ur reason of coming to UK then there is something seriosuly wrong . at 17 it makes some sense at 27 ..it sounds stupid . she is 30 now ..and still in same apartment and even shared a room with a guy for an year as she din had money to pay . all her parents and relatives see is the pics at fB and 2 pound gogs she buys at atmosphere .o wonder 3 of her cousins also want to go there.

    I saw videos of old men at southhall who sold their lands to come to UK and now are surviving on Langar . time is not right for unqualified people to migrate right now. Even I have been thinking frm last 2 years .I am in SAP and am almost sure of getting a job there in 2 months but why the hell i should struggle when am comfortable here right now . let the situation improve and i will visit again ..and UK is one country i absolutly love for life is good if you have a decent job.

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